1) On a separate sheet of paper,  write a paragraph that sums up your interview with each of the two interviews you've done for your profile
2) Read these two pieces that describe Rick Bragg's departure from The New York Times: 
  http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A51506-2003May28?language=printer
http://www.slate.com/id/2083539/
3) As a comment on this message, answer these questions: How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are? Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer? Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book? 

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Chris Erspamer
12/09/2009 15:11

I think that what Bragg did was both dishonest and unfair to the reporter (J Wes Yoder) who actually visited the town and did the reporting. I do not think this transgression would have merited him being fired, and one could argue that even the suspension was too harsh - especially if it is true that Bragg was not alone in carrying out this practice - but at least he should have been made to admit his mistake, apologize to Yoder, and post a corrections notice regarding the incident. What I find to be serious is not the transgression itself, but Bragg's refusal to take responsibility for abusing his position of superiority over his intern and neglecting to give him any credit for bearing the brunt of his work. Also disturbing is the fact that newspapers such as the Times routinely tolerate this practice and in so doing keep some freelance reporters who work for them from getting any credit. Finally, on a sidenote that is perhaps not completely relevant but definitely is related, I have heard of many cases of people who go beyond Bragg and have others write up what they claim to be their own memoirs. Take Sarah Palin, for example. She paid someone else $1 million to write her book, Going Rouge, for her, and received about $8 million after it was published so far (I don't know the exact figure). I guess there is truth to the claim that fame, like power, can bring up the worst in people.

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Mr. Baron
12/09/2009 15:27

Is it Bragg that's culpable here, or the Times for condoning the practice? If there's blame here, where does it fall?

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Hye-Jung Yang
12/09/2009 15:56

While Bragg’s offense wasn’t as serious as Stephen Glass’, it is similar in that both men undermined the credibility of the publication and misled the public with their writing. While Bragg didn’t completely fabricate his stories like Glass did, they both seemed to follow the paths they did for a desire for the “excitement factor.” This was clear with Glass – he made up the stories that everyone wanted to read – and while Bragg generally stuck to the truth, he was lazy in making sure he stuck to the facts, focusing instead on the shocking nature of his works. As the Slate article showed, he made many factual errors which he could probably have avoided if he had collected the information himself. In addition, I found this example of a piece of his writing based on facts collected by an intern suspicious: “Chugging softly, it pushes the narrow oyster boat over Apalachicola Bay, gently intruding on the white egrets that slip like paper airplanes just overhead, and the jumping mullet that belly-flop with a sharp clap into steel-gray water.” While a beautiful piece of writing, phrases such as “slip like paper airplanes,” “belly-flop,” and “steel-gray” consist of highly detailed and particular words that evoke a very specific image; I can only imagine someone who was actually at the scene to be able to select those words as truthful representations of events. Bragg’s laziness will affect the effect his articles have on me: when I was reading them, I so appreciated his attention to detail and ability to conjure such images from the truth, but now, knowing that he often wasn’t the one to conduct the interviews or observe the scene, he seems manipulative and I won’t be sure whether to believe a detail or not, as he clearly valued beauty of writing over truth, which not only involves facts, but also an accurate and faithful portrayal of whatever is being covered. Since Bragg used so many small techniques and subtleties to depict certain scenes, I have much reason to believe that many of his descriptions were only lightly based on the truth.
Bragg’s actions are not only unfair to the public reading his articles, but also to those interviewed for the articles. As intern Milton Allimadi said, “readers I had interviewed must have been surprised the next day. While interviewing them I identified myself as Milton Allimadi, and the next day the byline would be totally different.” If Bragg was willing to change a few details and manipulate the truth, he may have also been willing to portray his interviewees in a different light- if he had actually been the ones to interview them, he would have picked up their nuances and emotions and would most likely have portrayed them truthfully. However, as he often wasn’t the interviewer, the credibility of his descriptions of people is compromised. The quotation from Allimadi also presents another obvious issue- Bragg’s unfairness to his stringers and interns. As Times reporter Peter Kilborn described it, “he's presenting it to the reader as his art, as his work, and it wasn't.” I was shocked by how little Bragg cared about doing true and honest reporting that would give him the best possible way to present the truth, as exemplified by the way he let Yoder do most of the reporting for him and visited Apalachicola for a few hours to justify the dateline for the story. He didn’t seem to feel any guilt for depending so heavily on his interns, who were never even credited- he even seemed to believe that he had the right to do so: “I had a much better pair of eyes than I have right now out there. We often re-create a scene, or an image, based on someone's memory. I had someone there for four days, soaking up every detail, every nuance. Often that's what stringers are -- not just quote-gatherers, they're your eyes.” The characterization of stringers as “eyes” implies to me not that interns, to Bragg, provided the best possible way to “soak up every detail” for the best possible story, but simply that they were a means of writing with as little work as possible.
Bragg deserved to be ousted from his position. As a journalist, he should have known the limits and the unfairness of his actions- while they produced some beautiful pieces of writing, their purpose was to report, not to create. His actions negatively impacted the readers, the subjects of the story, the interns, the publication, and the credibility of the media. He should have held the same view as Kilborn: “I want to control the story. I know what the essential elements are for a feature story. I want to see the images. I want to hear the voices. It's a matter of pride. I'm not going to paint a picture and have somebody else come in with his brush.”

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Jesse
12/09/2009 16:14

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

Personally, I do not believe the transgressions are as serious as the pieces made them to be. Although Bragg did not conduct the interviews or detailed observations, he still reported what he believed were the facts. Bragg may have cut corners, but he definitely values the truth in his pieces that has earned him such a strong reputation. His transgressions were serious enough that he should be aware of his unethical means of reporting, but his transgressions were not serious enough for him to quit his job.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

Yes, but not too much. I have lost some respect for Bragg as a journalist (whose role is to report the truth) because he consciously made the decision to write about something he did not have first hand knowledge of. He lies to his readers in that he presents himself as if he actually experienced what happens in his stories. Although Bragg values the truth in the facts of the final story, the fact that he would lie to readers, seemingly to cut corners, greatly undermines his credibility. Nevertheless, I would believe anything he writes as truth, for I value the content of an article more than how the writer obtains the information.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

No. Many if not most of these pieces have been written when Bragg was younger and had the energy to report several events in a given time span. As he said in the Washington Post Article, he was getting old and could use more assistance in reporting (of course,it might be risky trusting his statement at face value). What made "Somebody Told Me" an interesting read for me was the writing of the articles and how they conveyed truth. Bragg's transgressions a decade after these articles are written do not change their quality.

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Deanna
12/09/2009 17:27

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

Though Bragg did take shortcuts he shouldn't have, I don't believe his "transgressions" were that serious. Granted, he was lazy enough to send a reporter to gather information for him, and then visited the site briefly so the dateline wouldn't be a blatant lie. But he also reported the facts of the story as he knew them, which is the reporter's job. Bragg could have been more true to his readers had he done the reporting himself, but if he knew that he worked well with Yoder and that Yoder would gather sufficient information for the article, then he cannot be severely reprimanded.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

Bragg's actions don't make me think of him differently as a writer, but as a reporter. Ultimately, the articles that Bragg produced were powerful and informative pieces, as they should have been. The place where Bragg didn't live up to expectations was in his reporting; in fact, he hardly did any reporting at all. Bragg attributes his use of freelance reporters to his age, which must be at least partially true, and which makes his actions slightly more excusable. But he should have wanted to write the best story he could have, which would have included full reporting done by himself, not by a proxy reporter.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

No, it doesn't. First off, most of the pieces in the book were written at an earlier time, when Bragg presumably did more of his own reporting. Secondly, the pieces in the book wouldn't lose much reliability even if Bragg had taken shortcuts in those, too; Bragg at least took enough care to make sure he sat down with his reporter to get the facts straight, and did visit the site briefly. Most of the pieces in the book, though, should have been reported mostly by Bragg himself, so this new information on Bragg's technique does not sway my opinion of his writing.

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Mr. Baron
12/09/2009 17:38

Does it make you doubt at all that the events he describe really happened? (If he wasn't there to see it, how confident are we that catfish really slapped aginst the water? That the babies in the daycare center really grabbed at sunlight?)

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Greg
12/09/2009 17:42

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

I don't think the transgressions the pieces describe are nearly as serious as they make them out to be. Although Bragg's use of Yoder isn't the best way for him to get a good feel of the story, at least he already knew and trusted Yoder well enough to allow him to gather information in place of himself. The facts Bragg uses are accurate, and I don't think it's a problem that Bragg used Yoder to gather information, but I do think it's a problem that he didn't really get to experience the story firsthand before writing about it firsthand. His style depends on very vivid, specific images and descriptions, images that could only be truthfully written about after in-depth, firsthand reporting. I think it is a somewhat serious transgression, but reflects more on the profession of reporting than Bragg himself.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

A little bit. I realize that it must be harder for Bragg in his old age to keep the same standards as he used to (I hope he was more ethical as a younger reporter), but what he did is, in my mind, clearly against the moral code of journalists, though only a little bit.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

If I read these pieces before reading the piece that warranted him all this attention, I would probably think less of it, and Bragg as a reporter. I think, though, that his writing would not capture the main point much less had he done all the interviewing himself.

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Ariel Rivkin
12/09/2009 18:25

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

Although Rick Bragg did violate numerous New York Time policies regarding byline integrity and (kinda-sorta) fabricated a story that he didn't really witness, I do not think the transgressions the pieces describe are extremely serious. Yes, he did not really take an active role with collecting the data used in the story, and he did write the article as if he had been actively witnessing the Oystermen. This could be seen as wrong, but it sounds like many interns at the NYT were used in this fashion. However, it is fair to say Rick Bragg got carried away with using a stringer and so this could be seen as unfair.


Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

Yes, it does make me think differently of Bragg as a writer. I now picture him as a lazy writer instead of the smiling, lively writer I saw on the cover of "Somebody Told Me." I enjoyed reading his stories because I admired the way he could examine an ordinary person and write as if he thought the individual was special or extrodinarily beautiful. Now, I realize he didn't percieve or pick up on anything special in the person, he simply is talented with manipulating words to create great descriptions of different things. I now question his integrity as well.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

To a degree. The facts in any of the pieces I can still trust to be true. But I can't read the rest of the story with as much admiration for his suave writing.

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Roxanne
12/09/2009 18:28

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are? Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer? Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

I think that while Bragg's transgressions may not have been quite as severe as Jayson Blair's (who I wrote my 15 page journalism paper on freshman year) or Steven Glass's, they're still pretty serious. How can Bragg write in such detail if he was barely there to witness the events? He includes many pieces of information that aren't necessarily obvious at first glance, so it makes me wonder how true they were. I don't see anything wrong with having an intern do a basic interview every so often, but it sounds like Bragg was doing this more than 'every so often.' If I were to read Bragg's writing again I would definitely have less trust,and wonder who really observed the events. I still think he's a good writer,and his pieces are certainly effective, but at the same time- how good can we give him full credit for this if other writers did the research. That's a crucial step in the writing process that can't be overlooked.

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Amrita Rao
12/09/2009 18:29

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

Compared to Stephen Glass, Bragg's transgressions seem minimal. This does not, however, change the fact that he did not give credit where it was due. I don't think I necessarily mind that someone else was doing Bragg's investigations or reporting for him, but if this was in fact the case, Bragg should have given his "understudies" credit in the byline or somewhere else. The work is not entirely his.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

If anything I have increased respect for him as a writer, because he was able to capture such pure emotions even though he wasn't even there to see what was going on. I have less respect for him as an individual though because he didn't really witness the events he was reporting on and was essentially lying.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

As a reader, I feel a little bit more manipulated and cheated. I also find it difficult to believe that the emotions portrayed by Bragg are real because he never really had the chance to experience them himself. He was in a sense concocting stories just like Glass.

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Tessa
12/09/2009 18:32

Although Bragg's transgression is not as serious as fabricating a story, as Stephen Glass did, I do not think it is acceptable to take full credit for a a piece without being sure of every detail or finding the meat of the story for oneself. Although I respect the fact that Bragg owned up to the accusations against them and while I believe he might have had honest intentions, the questions as to who found the information in his stories not only tarnishes his reputation but the reputation of journalism as a whole. Readers should be able to be confident that journalism reports the facts - and although Bragg's stories are not necessarily based on lies, the passing of information from person to person to be interpreted by him leaves room for readers to doubt what he writes.

I think that this does affect the way I read the pieces in the book. These articles are still powerful for me, and I can still learn from the way they are written. But the part that always impressed me most in Bragg's pieces is his ability to use the smallest details to set the scene or to show an issue at hand (for instance, how he used the farmer's sunburn and the golfer's tan to show the class difference in the article we read for the in-class essay). Now that I know that Bragg did not see some of those small detail first hand, and may even have invented a few of them, some of the power of the pieces is gone for me.

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Liam O'Flaherty
12/09/2009 18:37

I believe that Bragg's transgression was fairly serious. To me it is not the fact that he used Yoder to do his reporting for him, for that was out of pure laziness. But the major problem i have is that Bragg wrote the piece as if he were experiencing the entire thing firsthand. This is a complete insult to the readers, however it does not necessarily ruin the piece. Yoder could have observed these specific details and Bragg could have been merely passing them on with his particular writing style. The biggest problem i have is with the universal practice of using stingers and interns and then not giving them any credit. Bragg was simply doing what was allowed of him, and although he was cutting corners, i can't help but think that maybe he was just the only one who was caught. I still find great value in Rick Bragg's writing. In "dateline toe-touch," Shafer mostly insults Bragg for misquoting, providing bad facts, and being lazy. However, it is not the specific facts that make Bragg's pieces powerful or worth reading. If the babies in the bombing story were 6 months old instead of 3, it would have had the exact same effect on the reader. Bragg blotching unimportant facts which do not change the meaning of the piece does not make me think differently of Bragg. However, i do think differently of him because of the way he manipulated the readers in the oyster fishing piece, and also how he did not give credit where it was do. When i read the pieces in the book now i do start to question to legitimacy and accuracy of the specific details. However, these specific details are used to create a feeling in Bragg's pieces and i feel that even if he messed up on a few details, the feeling behind the piece will always be there.

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Max Ebb
12/09/2009 18:46

I think the transgressions against Bragg are fairly serious because it is not fair to the reporter who did the work and it is not fair that Bragg misleads the reader, making them think that it was he who wrote the piece. For me, this does make me question his work because how are we supposed to know if he actually witnessed the things he described or if he simply heard someone else say it and decided to go with it because it made his story better. The minor details, I thought, were the details that made Bragg's pieces unique and different from other pieces that I have read. Now that I know that there is a chance that some of details, that add so much to the pieces, may or may not be true I find it hard to look at his work with the same respect that I had before I knew. If I were to continue reading his work I would probably find myself focusing more on trying to decipher what could be fabricated and what I could believe than reading the story and enjoying and analyzing his writing techniques. Yes Bragg's offenses are not as brazen as Stephen Glass' because he did not completely fabricate a story but the thought that some of the minor details that give a story its color and tone could be made up really restricts my ability to read his pieces purely for there content and style.

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Emma
12/09/2009 18:49

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

I think the transgressions are serious. Bragg had unpaid stringers doing the majority of the reporting. What gave his stories heft were the specific details and honest quotations he used. But he wasn't the one who worked to earn many of those people's trusts because he wasn't there. Although his writing and the rhetorical choices he made also made the pieces what they were, he could not have done it without his helpers, and should therefore have given them the reporting credit they deserved.


Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

A little, I still see him as a great wordsmith. As a person, he sucks.


Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

Yeah, every image he described added to the tone of the piece, and convinced us to believe his point, or at least, to respect it. But now, I realize many of his points were not based on his own judgements, but on the notes his reporters left him.

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Dan Hurwit
12/09/2009 18:51

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

I think that the seriousness of the transgressions is based upon the extent of the fabrication. I do not believe that the reporting by Yoder should be considered a fabrication but I do not believe that it is right not to cite Yoder as doing some of the reporting for the piece. However, the fact that Bragg went over the notes with Yoder makes it a little better. Also, given that it is apparently the industry standard to use stringers, I do not believe that Bragg committed such atrocities as is implied in both of the pieces.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

After reading the articles from the Post and slate.com I feel somewhat cheated. I was under the assumption that he had done all the reporting himself, now it seems as though Bragg was just a face to put on the articles. Now, not knowing what was actually written by Bragg I don't know what parts of his writing I can trust. I feel much differently about him as a writer.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

I feel now, as though I have to read his pieces with a grain of salt. Although I do not think that he plagiarized or invented things out of thin air, there is no way to tell given that he had his unpaid intern vividly describe a scene and then use the description. I don't really know how to react to this because it is not plagiarism however it is not Bragg's real writing.

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SaschaB
12/09/2009 19:08

Reading the two articles bothered me. There does seem to be something wrong with writing based on research that another person did and not giving that person credit.

But both articles also pointed out that it's common for interns to do work for reporters – so common, in fact, that there's a term for them, "stringers." The sad thing for me is that in academia they're called research assistants. The ideas and research that get accredited to one author are oftentimes the contribution of many others. But then again, that's why books often have acknowledgments. It's a tricky issue that happens in more fields than journalism. And it results from a legitimate problem, which is that sometimes it's not possible for one person to do all the research on their own, and sometimes it's better so that there's less bias. But when it gets to crediting, it gets complicated.

So I guess Bragg's transgression is serious, because he did not follow the traditional methods of dealing with stringers. The fact is I really don't know that much about citing in newspaper work and how it works in these professional industries, and to try to judge the seriousness without this knowledge is difficult. My sense is that it's fairly serious.

Of course this makes me think differently of Bragg as a writer. The articles he wrote are still powerful, but when I was reading them, I didn't only picture the scenes and people he was describing, I pictured Rick Bragg at the scene, interacting with people and taking it all in. Now I can't picture that anymore, and that definitely takes away from my sense of his stories. And for the same reason, it affects the way I read the pieces, too.



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Tanny K
12/09/2009 19:09

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

Like Dan, I agree that his trangressions depend on how much he actually made-up facts. Of course, he should have given credit to his stringers. I think that as a writer you can still incorporate others' observations and write creatively as long as you discuss what you wrote with the observer. I think the bigger sin in Bragg's case was that in some stories he just got the facts wrong. In that one article, he must've have been completely carried away or something...

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

As a writer, Bragg has the tendency to make vivid descriptions, always setting up the context so that we can better understand the article. I think it works most of the time in his writing, but if parts of that detial were fabricated, he is nothing more than a fiction writer.


Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

It does affect that way I read pieces. His mistakes show me that he is prone to overexaggeration at times. He may not have necessarily made up facts, but could have tweaked them in his head in order to make the story more interesting. That, is not acceptable in my opinion.

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Drew
12/09/2009 19:49

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Drew
12/09/2009 20:03

First, this type of transgression is no where near as bad as what Mr. Glass did. While his actions might show laziness and unfairness, Bragg at least uses facts and information that he believes to be accurate. I think it is dishonest to take credit for the work of another but since Bragg did not attempt to misinform the public I do not think he committed a first time fire able offense.

After reading the pieces I still think Bragg is an excellent writer. Although reporting is time consuming and labor intensive, I think the part of journalism that requires the most talent is actually writing the story. As all of his story sound distinctly "Braggarian," I believe he simply used the facts others had gathered as a structure for his story. Thus he still deserves the credit for the writing.

As a read some of the pieces in Bragg's book I remember having a hard time imagining Bragg talking to some of the people he described. Knowing that others could have been the ones actually there makes a lot of sense. This fact in itself does not change how I read his pieces but it does reduce my overall trust with Bragg and make me question some of his details and quotes which seem to fit "too perfectly."

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Allen L
12/09/2009 20:04

I think that Bragg's transgressions are extremely serious. In the case of the oystermen series, he essentially copied what Yoder, his intern, wrote. And if not that, he imagined it in his head, which would mean that he made it up. So either it's plagiarism or just not true, both of which I find completely unethical and a testament to his inflated ego. Or perhaps his laziness. The mistakes that he has previously made in other articles brings to question whether or not he relied on interns or stringers for those as well - after all, if he were on the scene and reporting himself, chances are he would have caught these discrepancies.

One thing that Bragg did that I (used) to think was done very well were the descriptions of the setting. It was incredible how he managed to capture so much detail and evoke such a specific mood and image in the readers' mind. Now I am doubting the complete truthfulness of the setting. The way he described the boats in the oystermen piece seemed far too idealized, too perfect. And if he made some detail up, then he is manipulating the reader for his own purpose. He becomes no better than Stephen Glass, who many people already mentioned.

I suppose now I'll take his writing with a grain of salt - I won't always think that some description is fabricated, however I don't think I would be able to trust his writing as I did before. In fact, I think I've become more cynical about journalism ever since I started taking the class. All I've seen are journalists manipulating their stories for their own personal benefit... maybe it would be beneficial to see some genuinely honest writing.

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Hallie
12/09/2009 20:53

Alright, well first off what Bragg did was not nearly as bad as what Glass did, but that does not mean his mistakes can be ignored or gone without any type of punishment. In my mind what is so wrong with the situation is the fact that Bragg prides himself on detail and setting the scene, but how could he truly draw a picture in your mind if he was never there?? My problem is that what makes his writing awesome and truly elite is his attention to detail and that detail clearly demonstrating the major point and the characters, but now his details and ironic pieces were not found by him, but by someone else. He should have given credit to the other writer, I do not really see why he didn't. Perhaps he did not want to lose his pride or status? Whatever the reason, his writing lost a little bit of it's magic and power. Bragg of course is still a gifted writer, but I am not too sure about his attention and ability to bring a scene to life. I, though, do not think it is fair to assume or say that all of the other pieces were cited wrong. I do not think he could have made it as far as he did without being caught. He is a respectable writer, with only this mark on his reputation. Bragg probably wrote his articles, at least I would like to think he did. Whoever wrote these articles is a talented writer, and at least the stories themselves are true.

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Kate
12/09/2009 20:55

I don't think that what Bragg did was really that bad. I understand that it was completely unfair to his assistant, he should be getting credit for his work. But from the perspective of a reader, while I think it was wrong to have an intern do so much, I don't think it takes that much away from the writing. Nothing in Bragg's work was dishonest, all of his facts were still true. Compared to Glass, I think that while this is still unacceptable and should be punished, it is not as big a deal. Glass was misleading the reader and making them believe things that were completely made up. It seems like Bragg was just being lazy, but the readers at least got the right information.

It does make me think differently of Rick Bragg as a writer. Partly because I envisioned him being very passionate about his work, but when I read about this laziness I wonder if he truly was. I have less respect after reading these articles.

It makes me read the peices slightly differently, but only slightly. I wonder now, how truthful all of his descriptions were. It makes me a little sad because one of my favorite things about his writing was the scenes he would set up and the imagery that he would use. Now when I read it, it doesn't seem as real to me, and it's not as fun to read. I feel like no matter what peices of his I read now, I will be wondering whether he actually experienced it. I think that if he is writing about something he did not experiece, it would be different than if he had, no matter how good is intern's notes are. Something is taken away if you're writing about something you were told about, rather than something you witnessed.

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Lucky
12/10/2009 03:02

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

I don’t think the transgressions are that serious. Although Bragg was dishonest and withheld credit where it was due, he did not completely fabricate stories like Jason Blair. I don’t think anything can excuse his actions, but I also don’t think his actions can discredit him and his past work. Unfortunately, because he did not actually see the events first hand he wrote about, doubt crawls into all his pieces, and his credibility lies upon the goodwill and sympathy of the person reading it. I think it’s possible that the world of journalism overreacted to Bragg’s actions because of the Jason Blair scandal.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

Yes, a little bit. Although his manipulation of the English language is unique and very good, I believe that writers and reporters should have some dignity about their work. The dignity is not only a journalistic dignity about reporting the truth, but also a sort of pride in creating a piece of writing that is entirely their own. Each writer has his/her own style and signature written into the piece. Although Bragg does have his own style, I think he lost some dignity when he relied on an intern a bit too much because the piece was not entirely his own.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

Not really, mostly because Bragg was younger when he wrote the pieces. The only problem is that I cannot trust his word that he only used the intern because he was getting older, so I have to hope that he did most of the reporting on his own. I did not like every piece we read, but the ones I did like, I liked because of the writing style and the way Bragg presented the information. Most of the stories were believable, such as the story about Vidor, so I do believe he actually reported what he saw. Even if he didn’t, the point of the story is to expose the deep-rooted racism in some areas of the south, which I believe exists. So I read the stories focusing more on Bragg’s writing technique than content. Most of his stories were not so outrageous that I would devastated if they were false, like the story about the eight-year-old heroin addict.

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David Han
12/10/2009 04:48

While reading Bragg, I was amazed by the minute details he described in his pieces, how the descriptions seemed flawlessly placed in a way that was, in a sense, too perfect. The two articles linked above explain why. Bragg did not observe each detail in his pieces, and he used the details of stringers, interns who aid writers with pieces without receiving credit. The question, however, is whether Bragg committed a sin worthy of his judgment by the journalism community.

Although much of his writing was not truly “original,” I feel that his incident was too sensationalized. Bragg may have had someone bring him the best ingredients to make the “soup,” the metaphor for an article used in the Washington Post link, but he was the cook who brought it all together. Just as an apprentice may aid a mentor, Yoder, Bragg’s intern, helped Bragg by offering the tools necessary to create the piece. If the reason why he was given pressure to leave the New York Times was because of his strong use of stringers, then I believe Bragg should have continued to write. For many professions, there are interns that may not receive credit for their actions; they receive what they became interns for, experience. Plus, according to the articles, the use of stringers is common in newspapers.

The one great criticism I have for Bragg, or perhaps his writing, is that he seems to have control over his articles, adding in certain terms or phrases that make him seem intimate with the subject. When he writes his articles, he seems to know exactly what is going on, which I have trouble believing now that I know he may not have been at many of the scenes when they occurred. Now that I know why Bragg left the journalism profession, I must read his pieces with a sense of distrust, since I don’t know whether he was actually there. My distrust as a reader is what ultimately makes Bragg a failed journalist.

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Wenqi
01/09/2010 08:06

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

I think if Bragg was doing very straightforward reporting, it would not be as bad, but since his kind of reporting relies on very specific details, it's hard for me to imagine that he can create the elaborate, intricate imagery of the places and descriptions of the people without actually visiting the places and interviewing the people. It makes me doubt his accuracy. If it could be confirmed that every single detail in his stories are from the notes of his interns/stringers, then it would be a lot less serious than if he just made stuff up to fill in the gaps.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

Yes. He must have felt some guilt writing all those descriptive scenes as if he was there the whole time. He must have known that people would have the assumption that he had done all of his reporting firsthand since his writing is so descriptive and specific. I don't know why he thought it was alright.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

Yes. His stories are less touching because the most important aspect of his stories- the places and people- are less convincing. Now I will doubt a lot more about the truthfulness of his descriptions, which I had really liked before.

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Marsha
02/10/2010 16:40

How serious do you think the transgressions the pieces describe are?

I think that in journalism it is very easy to be accused of being inaccurate. But what the readers forget that no matter what, they are reading something that someone else is writing and it includes the story as the writer perceived it. Although Bragg could have been more careful and I guess accurate if he went to visit the sites himself, the fact that the information is actually not made up but gathered by another person is not a big of a deal as people made it out to be. There a lot of times when we’ve written articles and another person does interviews so what makes what Bragg did so false? I’m not saying it was right, because being at the places in person does help the writer add his/her voice accurately, but I do think that it wasn’t that big of a deal.

Does it make you think differently of Bragg as a writer?

I think as a writer I respect him the same because he still wrote those pieces, but I do have a detachment towards him because now I know that he didn’t do everything by himself. And I thought most of the times the descriptions and the reporting brought a lot of life to his pieces and made them great but knowing that the reporting was done by someone else makes it hard for me to be impressed by him because a lot the work that helped him write great pieces wasn’t done by him.

Does it affect the way you read the pieces in the book?

Not really because the pieces are still written for the same purpose regardless of who did the reporting and the pieces technically don’t have false information as long as Bragg didn’t interpret the reports notes wrongly.

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